Not only did Kylo Ren lead the First Order, but he was also the Master of the Knights of Ren. In the third act of The Last Jedi and throughout Rise of Skywalker Kylo Ren ruled the Galaxy as Supreme Leader. Not mention, Kylo Ren was able to do something Vader never did. For starters, Kylo Ren was able to break Luke Skywalker’s spirit, something that Vader was unable to do in the original trilogy. In some ways, Kylo Ren is even stronger than Vader.

What took six films to see with Anakin Skywalker, it took half a film to see in Ben Solo. The viewers were unable to see the conflict within Vader, and it took a whole prequel trilogy to finally understand his struggles and to sympathize with him as a character. Vader was a polished character, he didn’t have the messiness of Kylo Ren. You see him hesitate to kill his father in Force Awakens, and also fails to pull the trigger in The Last Jedi that would have killed his mother.Īfter killing his father, that death destroyed him so much that he lost a lightsaber duel with a scavenger from Jakku that had never yielded a lightsaber before, and nearly killed him. We see he wants to do good but chooses the dark side. Unlike his grandfather, Kylo Ren had flaws, had misgivings, showed emotion and growth throughout the sequel trilogy.įrom the start, we see the struggle within Kylo Ren. Vader was a simple character, whose redemption story was simply a plot device, not his characterization.

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